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Swift Statement cont'd 1

At 2.29pm we went to the nearby police cars.  I was aware that other officers were conducting a search in the area and we remained, stationary, in the car.  I could see another police car ahead of us containing Detective Constables Greene, Richardson and Hatherley.

At 2.32pm, whilst still in this position, I saw Kim Hatherley walk to the car containing Dwight Hatherley and appear to hold a conversation with him.

At 2.52pm Dwight Hatherley was driven from the area, Kim Hatherley had been with him up until this time.

I went with Woman Detective Constable Vickers and Customs Officer Virgil to the courtyard area at the rear of Hatherley`s Grandmother`s residence where we waited.

At 3.31pm I saw a man, who I now know as Kemma Belboda, placed into a police car, adjacent to us, by Detective Sergeant Gibbons, Detective Constable Field, and Customs Officer Simmons.

Belboda left the vehicle with Detective Constable Field and Customs Officer Simmons and spoke with a woman nearby.

At 3.40pm the officers returned with Belboda to the police car and we all left for Hamilton Police Station arriving at 3.47pm.

At 4.17pm, the same day, we left Hamilton Police Station in company with Dwight Hatherley.  At 4.19pm we arrived at Princess Street, Pembroke, the residence of Lisa Tucker, Hatherley`s girlfriend.

Detective Constable Greene was in possession of the search warrant, that I had obtained the previous day, relating to the premises and showed it to the occupier, Mrs Tucker.

I again kept contemporaneous notes of what transpired.

I escorted Hatherley to the premises and Detective Constable Greene said to Mrs Tucker, "Does Dwight stay here?".

Mrs Tucker said, "No way, he just takes to my daughter that`s it".

Detective Constable Greene said, "Your daughter has her own room?".

Mrs Tucker said, "Yes".

Detective Constable Greene said, "We`ll just take a look around that".

At 4.21pm Mrs Tucker obtained her glasses and read the search warrant saying, "I don`t understand this?".

Detective Constable Greene explained the warrant to Mrs Tucker and said, "We`ll just look in Lisa`s room".

I went to the bedroom with Lisa Tucker, Hatherley, Detective Constables Bourne and with Detective Constable Greene who said, "Is there anything of Dwight`s in here?"

Miss Tucker said, "No, not that I know of".

Mrs Tucker then came into the room and watched as Detective Constable Bourne searched.

At 4.27pm Mrs Tucker left the room, returning at 4.28pm.

Detective Constable Greene said, "Lisa, do you have his passport?".

Lisa said, "No".

At 4.29pm Detective Constable Bourne seized a piece of paper from the top right hand drawer of a drawer unit which was situated against the South wall.  The paper displayed the number `1-215 925 9003`.

Detective Constable Bourne said, "Whose number is it?", showing Miss Tucker the piece of paper. 

She replied, "Suzie, Jason`s sister".

The conversation continued between Detective Constable Bourne and Miss Tucker and I recorded what was said.

At 4.49pm the search of the room concluded and I wrote the number `1-215 925 9003` onto a piece of paper which I then handed to Lisa Tucker.

At 4.51pm we left the room and Miss Tucker said goodbye to Hatherley.

At 4.52pm Hatherley left the premises in the company of other officers whilst I returned to the Narcotics Office and secured the exhibits.

At 11.45am, on Sunday, 1st April, 1990, I was in company with other officers, including Detective Sergeant McLean, Woman Detective Constable Vickers and Customs Officer Virgil, when we attended the `Sparrow`s Nest` bar on Reid Street, Pembroke, first floor, front bar.  
At about 11.50am, whilst in this bar Detective Sergeant McLean introduced himself, Customs Officer Virgil and Woman Detective Constable Vickers to a woman who I now know as Mrs Hatherley.

Mrs Hatherley said, "What you want?".

Detective Sergeant McLean said, "Are you Mrs Hatherley?".

Mrs Hatherley said, "Yes".

Detective Sergeant McLean said, "Is is possible for you to leave here now?".

Mrs Hatherley said, "I don`t get off until seven".

Detective Sergeant McLean said, "Who is your boss here?".

Mrs Hatherley said, "Mr Minor`s".

Detective Sergeant McLean said, "Where can we contact him?".

Mrs Hatherley said, "At home I guess, I don`t know his number".

I then went to the rear of the premises where I saw a woman sweeping the floor.

As a result of a conversation that I had with her I knocked upon a door at the North East corner, behind the bar.

I spoke with the manager of the establishment who I now know as Mr Minor`s and at 11.57am he accompanied me to the front bar where we met with Mrs Hatherley and Detective Sergeant McLean.  Mr Minors granted Mrs Hatherley time off and she left in company with the Officers.

At 12.20pm the same day, I attended Morgans Road, Warwick and went to the premises adjacent, and to the North, of the address at which Hatherley and Harvey were arrested.  I spoke with and recorded a witness statement from the occupiers of the premises Mr Harvey and his daughter Deborah.

I left the premises at about 1.15pm and went to the address at the rear of the house in which Harvey and Hatherley had been arrested.  Here I met with Mrs Albouy who was dictating a statement to Detective Constable Severin which concluded at 2.05pm.

At 2.12pm we left the premises returning to the Narcotics Office.

At 4.28pm the same day I attended Hamilton Police Station in company with Detective Sergeant McLean. 

Mrs Hatherley was in the North gaol area interview room in company with Woman Police Constable Lorna Richardson, both ladies then went to the front of the station.

At 4.33pm I again saw Dwight Hatherley and, in company with Detective Sergeant McLean, accompanied him to the South interview room, whilst making contemporaneous notes.

Detective Sergeant McLean said, "You still want to speak with me along Dwight?".

Hatherley said, "Yeah".

I left both men in the interview room and waited in the main gaol area.

At 4.40pm I saw Hatherley walk briskly through the gaol area, speaking with no one.  Without stopping or speaking to anyone he walked directly to the cell area.

I went to Detective Sergeant McLean in the interview room and at 4.47pm, when Detective Sergeant McLean had finished writing we left the area.

At 5.15pm, the same day, I made local enquiries with regard to the `Louis Vuitton` key that was in Hatherley`s possession when arrested on Friday, 31st March, 1990.

At 5.40pm I returned to the Narcotics office.

At 7pm the same day I attended Hamilton Police Station in company with Detective Constable Bourne.

At 7.20pm I saw Mrs Hatherley and restored to her the cash and personal effects taken from Morgans Road at the time Dwight Hatherley, her son, was arrested on Friday, 31st March, 1990.  Mrs Hatherley signed the receipts pertaining to these items, numbered CO532 and CO533.

At 7.25pm, in company with Detective Constable Bourne, in the gaol area interview room, at the North side, I conducted an interview with Dwight Hatherley which I recorded contemporaneously on `caution statement` forms.

At 7.25pm I said,"Dwight, I am Detective Constable Philip Swift and this is Detective Constable Bourne.  We are dealing with you in relation to the offence for which you have been arrested, namely conspiracy to import a controlled drug.  With regard to this you are not obliged to say anything unless you wish to do so, but what you say may be put into writing and given in evidence.  Do you understand this?"

Hatherley said, "Yes, I understand this".

I said, "I understand that you have been given an opportunity to make a statement in relation to this matter already,but I again give you the opportunity.  Do you wish to make a statement in relation to this matter, it will be written down?".

Hatherley said, "I wish to make no statement".

I said, "I wish to put some questions to you in relation to this matter, namely the offence of conspiracy to import a controlled drug.  You are not obliged to answer any of these questions, but if you do the questions and answers will be taken down in writing and may be given in evidence.  Do you understand this?".

Hatherley said, "I understand".

I said, "With regard to your arrest and subsequent search of your premises last Friday, 30th March 1990 a number of items were seized by DC Bourne and myself, do you recall this?".

Hatherley said, "I remember that".

I said, "Please tell me what of yours we seized?"

Hatherley said, "Hard earned money".

I said, "Dwight, I would appreciate your giving full answers if you can, it saves me keep recording questions.  Can you tell me specifically where that money came from?".

Hatherley said, "I worked for it".

I said, "Doing what?".

Hatherley made no reply.

I said, "What do you do for employment?".

Hatherley said, "I have already answered that".

I said, "You referred to us seizing some keys, to which keys are you referring?".

Hatherley said, "They were all attached to a brown key case".

I said, "How many keys?".

Hatherley said, "Between five and eight, I`m not exactly sure".

I said, "Can you describe what the keys were for?".

Hatherley made no reply.

I said, "Can you recall what the keys were for?".

Hatherley made no reply.

I said, "We seized some records at the house from upon the Bar.  Whose are these?".

Hatherley said, "Those belong to either my sister, my mother or my grandmother, they`re not mine".

217 produces records in sleeves - records `I fell in love last night` and `Mr Look so Good`.

I said, "Dwight, do you know to whom these records belong?".

Hatherley said, "I`m not sure".

I said, "Are they yours?".

Hatherley said, "No".

217 Displays two telephone directories, one in red binder.

I said, "We also seized these two telephone directories, to whom do they belong?".

Hatherley said, "I don`t remember you taking all this.  I think you must have taken them after I left the house, I think that`s against the law".

I said, "They were taken when you were arrested, in your presence and recorded by me, upon a set of notes which bear your signature.  I assure you that we took them at the time of your arrest.  To whom do they belong?".

Hatherley said, "They belong in the house".

I said, "Do you write in them?".

Hatherley said, "No, I don`t".

I said, "Have you ever written any telephone numbers on them?".

Hatherley said, "No".

217 produces a set of four screw drivers handles and a pair of pliers.

I said, "To whom do these belong?".

Hatherley said, "They belong to me (points to screw drivers) that (points to pliers) belongs to my grandmother".

I said, "By they do you mean the screw drivers?".

Hatherley said, "Whatever you want to call them".

I said, "Why do you have the screw drivers?".

Hatherley said, "I have lots of tools".

I said, "Why were these the only ones we found?".



Hatherley made no reply.

I said, "I am showing you a yellow piece of paper bearing handwriting.  Is this your handwriting?".

Hatherley said, "Nope".

I said, "Whose handwriting is it?".

Hatherley made no reply.

I said, "Who is Rebecca Boatman?".

Hatherley said, "I haven`t the faintest idea".

I said, "Who is Judy?".

Hatherley said, "I don`t know".

I said, "I am showing a white piece of paper bearing letters and numbers, handwritten, whose handwriting is this?".

Hatherley made no reply.

I said, "Do any of the numbers mean anything to you?".

Hatherley said, "No, they don`t".

I said, "I am showing you a brown note book, on the cover is the number 976-1616, whose book is this?".

Hatherley said, "I don`t know".

I said, "I am showing you a green `telephone and address` book, whose book is this?".

Hatherley said, "I don`t know".

I said, "Does it belong to your mother?".

Hatherley said, "Either my mother or my sister".

I said, "I am showing a blue Memo book, whose book is this?".

Hatherley said, "I have no idea".

I said, "Whose address is 176-328 Memorial Parkway, New Brunswick, N.J. 08903?".

Hatherley said, "I have no idea".

I said, "I am showing you a piece of paper bearing the telephone number 292-5670, whose number is this?".

Hatherley said, "I have no idea".

I said, "What was your mother`s length of stay in the United States?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "I am showing you a set of five keys on the same link, do you recognise these?".

Hatherley said, "Yes, I do".

I said, "How do you recognise them?".

Hatherley said, "They`re mine".

I said, "What are the keys to?".

Hatherley said, "They`re to my house".

I said, "Which address are they to?".

Hatherley said, "Morgans Road".

I said, "Which keys are for Morgans Road?".

Hatherley said, "They are all for the same house".

I said, "One key is marked `Long lock T46`, what is this to?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "One key is marked `Master` on one side, and `A1407` on the other, what is this for?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "One key is marked `Louis Vuitton` on one side and 1019531 on the other.  What is this for?".

Hatherley said, "It came with the key case".

I said, "I understand `Louis Vuitton to be the makers of luggage, how is it that you come to have this key?".

Hatherley said, "It came with that key case, maybe they give it to you as a souvenier".

I said, "When did you get that key case?".

Hatherley said, "About four years ago".

I said, "Where from?".

Hatherley said, "San Francisco".

I said, "How much was it?".

Hatherley said, "I don`t remember".

I said, "Did you get it new?".

Hatherley said, "Yes, I did".

I said, "Do you have any Louis Vuitton luggage?".

Hatherley said, "No, I don`t".

I said, "Does any of your family have any Louis Vuitton luggage or goods?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "It is my information that this key is issued with a piece of luggage, a case, trunk or brief case.  Do you know anyone who owns such an item?".

Hatherley shook his head and said, "No reply".

I said, "I am showing you a typed list of telephone numbers, which I would like you to look at".

HANDS TO DWIGHT - EXPLAINS THE SYSTEM OF TYPING, THE LOCAL CODES FOLLOWED BY THE FOUR DIGIT NUMBER.

Hatherley said, "None of them means anything to me".

DWIGHT CONTINUES TO LOOK AT LIST.

I said, "You are welcome to sign this list as I have done if you wish.  I have also added the time at which I handed it to you.  Do you wish to sign it?".

Hatherley said, "No".

At 2021 hours Dwight returns list.

I said, "I am finished with regard to the items seized from your house, there are just a few points I wish to clarify.  With regard to the collection of the T.V.`s, it is my information that your mother went to the Airport to arrange delivery.  Is that corret?".

Hatherley said, "No, she did not".

I said, "Who went?".

Hatherley said, "I arranged the delivery, my mother dropped off the receipt".

I said, "How did she come to be in possession of the receipt?".

Hatherley said, "I gave it to her to deliver".

I said, "When did you give it to her?".

Hatherley said, "At the house at Morgans Road".

I said, "When did you give her that receipt?".

Hatherley said, "Thursday afternoon".

I said, "Was anyone present whenyou handed her that receipt?".

Hatherley said, "No".

I said, "Are you sure it was you that handed her that receipt?".

Hatherley said, "I`m positive".

I said, "What did you tell her to do with the receipt?".

Hatherley said, "I asked her to deliver the receipt to Rafur Trucking".

I said, "What did you tell her the receipt was for?".

Hatherley said, "I don`t remember".

I said, "Why did you give her the receipt?".

Hatherley said, "Because I`m off the road".

I said, "When did you get the receipt?".

Hatherley said, "I got it when I bought the T.V.`s".

I said, "When did you buy the T.V`s".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Who did you buy the T.V.`s for?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Was that receipt the only document that you given when you bought the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "Yes".

I said, "Were you given a Warranty?".

Hatherley said, "No reply.  I don`t know, they were probably in the boxes".

I said, "Did you ask for a Warranty?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Did the T.V.`s come with a Warranty?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Who was with you when you bought the T.V`s?".

Hatherley said, "I was by myself".

I said, "Where did you obtain them from?".

Hatherley said, "It`s on the receipt, I don`t remember".

I said, "How did you pay for them?".

Hatherley said, "I paid for them in cash".

I said, "How much?".

Hatherley said, "Whatever the receipt says".

I said, "What sort of T.V.`s are they?".

Hatherley said, "G.E., No reply".

I said, "What size are they?".

Hatherley said, "Twenty six inch".

I said, "Are they the sort with flat screens, modern?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Do you know much about T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "Nope".

I said, "Do the T.V.`s work?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "What assistance did you receive to choose those specific T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "What do you mean?".

I said, "I mean who helped you with the specifics?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Why did you choose 26"T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Was one of the T.V.`s intended for your mother?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Who were the T.V.`s for?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Did you go away specifically to buy T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Who arranged the shipping of the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "Me".

I said, "Whose decided how they were to be shipped?".

Hatherley said, "Me".

I said, "Which company did you choose to ship them with?".

Hatherley said, "U.S. Air".

I said, "Have you dealt with them before?".

Hatherley said, "No".

I said, "Why did you choose U.S. Air?".

Hatherley paused and said, "No reply".

I said, "How did you take them, the T.V`s from the shop?".

Hatherley said, "It was cash and carry".

I said, "How did you carry them?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "How long did you have them before shipping them?".

Hatherley PAUSED.

I said, "How long did you have them before shipping them?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Where were you staying?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Did you complete a Bermuda Immigration card in respect of this trip to buy the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "How long have lived at Morgans Road?".

Hatherley said, "I`ve lived there all my life".

I said, "How well do you know your neighbours?".

Hatherley said, "Very well".

I said, "Do you know their names?".

Hatherley said, "Yes, I do".

I said, "Do you know the Harvey`s?".

Hatherley said, "Yes, I do".

I said, "Do you know Jimmy Harvey?".

Hatherley said, "Yes, I do".

I said, "How well do you know Jimmy Harvey?".

Hatherley said, "We grew up in the same neighbourhood".

I said, "Did you buy any of the T.V.`s for him?".

Hatherley said, "No".

I said, "Did you buy the T.V.`s or one of them for his family?".

Hatherley said, "No".

I said, "Had you arranged with Jimmy for him to receive either or both of the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "No".

I said, "Why did you address the T.V.`s to Jimmy Harvey?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "When you sent your mother to hand the receipt for the T.V.`s to Rufur did you tell her to whom they were addressed?".

Hatherley said, "No".

I said, "Why not?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Did your mother comment on the receipt being in Jimmy Harveys name?".

Hatherley said, "The receipt is not in Jimmy Harvey`s name, there are two receipts".

I said, "What do you mean by two receipts?".

Hatherley said, "One for the Airline, one for the T.V.`s".

I said, "Did you complete them both, the receipts?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Did you sign any correspondence, when you purchased the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Who placed the T.V.`s in your house at Morgans Road?".

Hatherley said, "Rafur Trucking".

I said, "Were they the T.V.`s you purchased in the U.S.?".

Hatherley said, "Yes".

I said, "How do you know this?".

Hatherley said, "Well they look exactly like them, if not the T.V.`s themselves".

I said, "When did you remove the back of the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "Who placed the silver duct tape packets, that you saw removed from them yesterday, in the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "I have no idea, I have never seen them before".

I said, "Were they in the back of the T.V.`s when you bought it?".

Hatherley said, "I never looked in the T.V.`s when I bought them, that`s in the back".

I said, "Where they in the back of the T.V.`s anytime after you bought them?".

Hatherley said, "I`ve never seen them before".

I said, "The packages that I am referring to are the ones that were made of silver duct tape and contained plant material which we suspect is Cannabis, have you ever seen them before?".

Hatherley said, "I`ve never seen them before".

I said, "Were there any similar looking packages in the back of the T.V.?".

Hatherley said, "I never looked in the back of the T.V. at all".

I said, "Obviously somebody removed that back of the T.V.`s to get the packages in, was that you?".

Hatherley said, "I never removed the back of the T.V.  Maybe they were put in there before I bought the T.V.`s or after I shipped the T.V.`s".

I said, "Who do you think would put the above mentioned packages into the T.V.`s?".

Hatherley said, "I have no idea".

2111 RECORD HANDED TO DWIGHT -  APPEARS TO READ

Whilst reading the record of questions and answers Hatherley remained quiet.

DC Bourne excused himself to make phone call.

At 9.14pm Hatherley said, "You know, watching you when I was arrested I got the impression that you were the only one who knew what he was doing but now I can see you don`t".

I said, "Like a lot of things, some times I only understand a little of the larger picture.  I had the easy job, all I had to do was take notes".

Hatherley continued reading, occasionally taking the paper and knocking the long edge against the table.

Hatherley said, "Well someone`s not going to be very happy".

DC Bourne returns to doorway, standing just in corridor, door ajar.

I said, "No you`re right, at the end of the day that is a lot of drug to lose".

Hatherley said, "Yep, you`re right there".

I said, "Somebody will be very disappointed".

Hatherley said, "Yep, and to think, your Sergeant had the opportunity to find out who".

I said, "And because of that I am convinced of your guilt".

Hatherley said, "Well you can`t prove that, you have something on my mother and Jason but nothing on me, they`re innocent and I gave your Sergeant the chance to find out why".

I said, "Do you realise young man just how much that incriminates you".

Hatherley said, "You never heard me say that".

I said, "Oh yes I did and so did Officer Bourne here".

Hatherley said, "Well I guess it`s my word against yours".

I said, "That`s all it ever is".

Hatherley said, "You`re right there".

Hatherley continued to read in silence.

2123 DWIGHT RETURNS RECORD

Hatherley said, "Hope you didn`t forget anything in that last chat we had".

I said, "No, it is all recorded upon this yellow piece of paper".

I said, "Dwight you have read the above record, all twelve pages, and I have just read your last comment back to you.  Is there anything that you wish to alter or correct?".

Hatherley said, "No comment".

I said, "Is this record true?".

Hatherley said, "No, it`s not".

I said, "In what way is it not true?".

Hatherley said, "No comment".

I said, "Again then I give you the opportunity to put right any part of it which you wish to correct, alter or add, it is the record I have made of your replies to my questions.  Do you wish to change anything?".

Hatherley said, "That`s no record".

I said, "Would you like, or care to explain that remark?".

Hatherley said, "No comment".

I said, "With regard to the twelve pages you have just read, would you like to add, alter or correct anything contained in them?".

Hatherley said, "No comment".

I said, "Did you make this record of your own free will?".

Hatherley said, "No comment".

I said, "Do you wish to sign the record?".

Hatherley said, "No I don`t".

I said, "Do you wish to initial my mistakes?".

Hatherley said, "No".

I said, "Do you wish to read this last page, page thirteen (13)?".



Hatherley said, "No, I don`t".

The record was concluded at 9.34pm and, in the presence of Hatherley, I recorded upon the last page:

"Record recorded 1-4-90, from 7.25pm to 9.34pm.  No breaks taken.  No refreshments provided, however Dwight was in possession of a soda as he entered the room and continued to drink from it during the interview.  D.C. Bourne present".

At 9.34pm Hatherley was returned to the cell and, in company with Detective Constable Bourne, I returned to the Narcotics Office.

At 9.16am, on Monday, 2nd, April, 1990, as a result of information obtained from Hatherley and recorded in the contemporaneous notes made the previous evening, I made further, overseas, enquiries concerning the `Louis Vuitton` key.

At 9.40am, the same day, I went to the residence of Mr. Ming, a Justice of the Peace, at Jubilee Road, Devonshire,
and obtained a Misuse of Drugs search warrant in the name of  Mrs. Williams of Dudley Hill, Paget.

At 10am I returned to the office.

At 10.35am I left the Narcotics Office in company with Detective Sergeants McLean and Gibbons and Detective Constable Bourne.

We arrived at Hamilton Police Station at 10.43am.

At 10.45am Hatherley was brought to the gaol area from his cell and I showed him the search warrant relating to Mrs. Williams of Dudley Hill, Paget.  I then cautioned Hatherley in accordance with Rule two (2) of the Judges Rules and informed Hatherley that we would be going to Dudley Hill, Paget.  Hatherley was then handcuffed, using handcuffs from the gaol area, with his hands to the front of him.

Hatherley said, "I ain`t going, there`s no one there".

I kept contemporaneous notes of what transpired and we left the gaol area and stopped in the hallway where Hatherley used the drinking fountain.

I said, "How can we contact someone".

Hatherley said, "You can`t".

Detective Sergeant McLean explained that we will not take too long and asked Hatherley for his Grandmother`s telephone number.

Hatherley said, "You not already got it?".

Detective Sergeant McLean said, "Have you got a key for the house?".

Hatherley said, "No".

Detective Sergeant Gibbons said, "Where does your Grandmother work?".

Hatherley said, "Belmont, what you gonna do, drag her out of her work you punk".

Detective Sergeant Gibbons said, "No we`re going to invite her to attend, if she doesn`t wish to attend then you will be present".

Hatherley said, "I`m waiting for my Attorney".

Detective Sergeant McLean said, "Why didn`t you tell us that earlier?".

Hatherley remained silent.

Detective Sergeant McLean then left the area and went to the station area.

At 10.51am Hatherley said, "If you want to search she knocks off at one o`clock can`t you wait till then".

Detective Sergeants McLean and Gibbons then left the area.

At 10.53am Hatherley said, "I also believe my seventy two hours is up".

Hatherley then remained silent.

At 10.57am Detective Sergeant Gibbons returned to the area.

At 10.58am Detective Sergeant McLean returned to the area and left with Detective Sergeant Gibbons.  Hatherley remained silent.

At 10.59am Detective Sergeants McLean and Gibbons returned and we all left the Police station for Dudley Hill, Paget. 

Hatherley was in company with Detective Sergeant Gibbons and I.  Detective Sergeant McLean and Detective Constable Bourne were in a vehicle ahead of us.

As we drove to the Belmont Hotel, Warwick, I again showed the search warrant to Hatherley who said, "Can I ask what you are looking for?".

I was seated next to Hatherley in the rear of the police car behind the driver, Detective Sergeant Gibbons, and I said, "I wish to find out what your keys are to.  When I questioned you about them last night you were somewhat evasive in answering".

Hatherley said, "Evasive, I`ve told you all I know".

I continued to make contemporaneous notes.

I said, "Hardly".

Hatherley laughed and then was silent.

At 11.14am we arrived at the Belmont Hotel and Hatherley was still silent.

I saw Detective Sergeant McLean enter the Belmont Hotel whilst Detective Sergeant Gibbons, Hatherley and I, remained outside with Hatherley

At 11.29am Detective Sergeant Gibbons left our car and went to Detective Sergeant McLean, returning after about a minute.

At 11.30am we left the Hotel and met with Mrs Williams on the drive way.

Mrs Williams said, "You`re very persistent, I don`t like all this crap on my job".

At 11.31am Mrs Williams handed to Detective Sergeant Gibbons a key.  Detective Sergeant Gibbons apologised for the inconvenience caused.  Hatherley remained silent.

Detective Sergeant Gibbons handed the key to me and, as we drove toward Dudley Hill, Paget, I checked it against the keys attached to the `Louis Vuitton` purse that had been found in Hatherley`s possession at the time of his arrest on Friday, 30th March, 1990.

At 11.33am I said to Hatherley, "I believe that the key that your Grandmother just handed me is identical to the key on your ring marked `Weiser`, am I correct?".

Hatherley said, "No reply".

I said, "I am going to use your key to enter your Grandmother`s residence will it open the lock?".

Hatherley was silent.

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