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The conversation transcribed: 27th August 1990 Callers words indicated by "US Law Enforcement Officer", My remarks are prefixed "PS - Bermuda officer". For information on the associated names click: Players US Law Enforcement Officer: ... youre getting a lot of problems Phil PS - Bermuda officer: Yeah, um, all right lets just run over this again US Law Enforcement Officer: dont write anything down, dont tape anything, just, this is just for your knowledge and you and (officer1) to talk to and tell (USOfficer1) PS - Bermuda officer: But Angelas already said it was a Customs officer US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: But she gave the name? US Law Enforcement Officer: But she, she doesnt really know shes just told me. She dont, she dont wanna tell you people because she was afraid it was going to get back to him PS - Bermuda officer: But she knows of "him" US Law Enforcement Officer: She knows that name Ramsey she was there present there at Marcus house when Marcus called him directly. PS - Bermuda officer: And were talking Ramsey? US Law Enforcement Officer: Yes PS - Bermuda officer: Okay, now when you say that he called, do you know where he called to US Law Enforcement Officer: he called Bermuda from Miami to Bermuda PS - Bermuda officer: Yeah, but we dont know if it was the office or US Law Enforcement Officer: Oh, no we dont know PS - Bermuda officer: Okay, now run over Attorney1 US Law Enforcement Officer: Attorney1 went bankrupt three years ago PS - Bermuda officer: Yup US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay what he did is he, that, Marcus, Marcus came in and re-financed him and everything. Are you familiar with that, that he went bankrupt PS - Bermuda officer: I know that he went bankrupt I think it was, may have been a bit more than three years US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay, Marcus came in and re-financed him and the reason to re-finance him was to clear things in Bermuda for him, you know, get the connections. You know, so things are easy for him in Bermuda because thats where hes making most of his money. So he came re ... Attorney1s apparently, a free baser of cocaine and Marcus supplies him with cocaine for himself too and also gives him money to keep him things clear. So what theyre doing is, and when Miranda, when Miranda talks to Attorney1 or the other guy, they three way call to Cohab in Florida. So when like, you know youre talking to your lawyer, if Im Miranda and Im talking to Attorney1, Attorney1 then does conference calls to Marcus in Florida PS - Bermuda officer: Very neat US Law Enforcement Officer: Yes and that way we cant pick that up. PS - Bermuda officer: Okay US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay PS - Bermuda officer: Have you had her story corroborated by anybody? US Law Enforcement Officer: I, I mean, I just spoke to, and it all fits in to what Ive developed PS - Bermuda officer: Yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: You know what I mean. I mean, you know shes given me dates, oh Lattini is very much involved so is courier4 and its a shame that we didnt know this before. PS - Bermuda officer: Yeah, cause hes obviously gone now. US Law Enforcement Officer: Yeah, but we can get him PS - Bermuda officer: No, Im just thinking about, obviously this gentleman here US Law Enforcement Officer: Umm, no thats why Im telling you. Its singular in nature, be careful with it, I would just go to officer1 with it and have officer1, thats it, just bury it in your head for now until we can do up some more information on it PS - Bermuda officer: Yep US Law Enforcement Officer: All right PS - Bermuda officer: Okay, Ive got something for you US Law Enforcement Officer: Go ahead PS - Bermuda officer: Just an enquiry, Im going to inform USOfficer1 when he comes over here, nobody else in my office is aware of this US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: umm, you remember you met informant1 US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: Well he, umm, hes been a good buy US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: hes been doing his bit and weve got somebody over at the moment whos part of the same network US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: Let me just find just where Ive put the information and get back to you on that, here we go, weve had a guy come over and hes come from Miami, Ill just put this stuff down, stayed in the Sonesta for one night US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: came in on, lets see, came in on Thursday, stayed over night Thursday was booked in at something like 11pm, left before 8am the following day. US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: The Name is (Target1 - full name given) booked through (ticket issuing office address in Miami) on his hotel card he gave his address as (full details given, Miami telephone number) now hes still here at the moment US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay PS - Bermuda officer: Its anticipated that hes going to be leaving this week US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: He is supposed to be the person who is bringing the drug back into the country US Law Enforcement Officer: bringing PS - Bermuda officer: the drug into the country, back to Bermuda. Hes going to bring 8 ounces of cocaine US Law Enforcement Officer: Drugs into, into where? PS - Bermuda officer: Bermuda US Law Enforcement Officer: Into Bermuda from? PS - Bermuda officer: From, hes going to do the Tampa flight. Now were going to try and get a date US Law Enforcement Officer: So hes leaving and then hes coming back PS - Bermuda officer: Yup, its anticipated hes going to leave here on Tuesday nobody knows about this, not even officer1. US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay PS - Bermuda officer: Umm, obviously, because of the problems Im having Im trying to keep everything close. US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: Its anticipated US Law Enforcement Officer: This reference Hal right PS - Bermuda officer: Yep, now, its anticipated that hes going to leave Bermuda on Tuesday, hes talking about being back within two or three days US Law Enforcement Officer: okay PS - Bermuda officer: so its possibly Thursday, Friday or Saturday US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: umm, description, Ive seen the boy US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: hes about five feet nine, white, hes got black hair, looks slightly Italian black hair, I mean his face looks slightly Italian, in so much as although hes got quite a square face hes got that black curly hair, quite big curls, his hairs only about half an inch from his head. US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: Short, short hair all round, no side burns, no mustache, no beard US Law Enforcement Officer: how much does he weigh? PS - Bermuda officer: I would say about 190, hes s stocky guy, hes very solid, about 25 years old um, even though hes, well hell probably pick up a bit of a sun tan here, but he was very white, I say very white, he was a white guy, no tan US Law Enforcement Officer: okay PS - Bermuda officer: um, he was wearing t shirt and shorts, baseball boots that sort of thing, but he looked stocky umm US Law Enforcement Officer: in fact remember the other black girl that was getting dope from informant2, that was delivering it to the Island? PS - Bermuda officer: I remember you mentioning a name US Law Enforcement Officer: Yeah big, big heavy set black girl, end of informant2 statement PS - Bermuda officer: Yep US Law Enforcement Officer: Weve got a Courier1 is what we have PS - Bermuda officer: Okay, well this boy, informant1 is staying close to him at the moment US Law Enforcement Officer: good, very good PS - Bermuda officer: The only other thing that Ive managed to get is that he made a collect call Saturday, 5pn approximately US Law Enforcement Officer: Right PS - Bermuda officer: from a phone box here. Now because its collect it wont necessarily be on a bill we can get hold of, it wont be US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: but apparently theyre dealing with A.T. & T. US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: there was, Ive checked informant1 calls, hes been accepting collect calls and the only collect one thats come up, because obviously the bill had to be sent from the US over US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: is from an Indian City, that mean anything? US Law Enforcement Officer: Indian City? PS - Bermuda officer: or an Indian Town , in Florida US Law Enforcement Officer: Uh Uh PS - Bermuda officer: Now this is supposed to be the boss whos in prison, hes supposed to be coming out very soon US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: but this is where the boss, Ill have the number probably tomorrow or Wednesday US Law Enforcement Officer: okay PS - Bermuda officer: so Ill be able to get that across to you US Law Enforcement Officer: Is there anyway you can pull, um reference the other job, speaking of telephones, is there any way you can pull watch-yer-call-its home phone number? PS - Bermuda officer: Whose? US Law Enforcement Officer: Attorney1s PS - Bermuda officer: I can do it US Law Enforcement Officer: Yeah PS - Bermuda officer: But you can imagine the flack that it will cause US Law Enforcement Officer: Oh, I know PS - Bermuda officer: Um, itll, US Law Enforcement Officer: who has, who has to see that PS - Bermuda officer: Oh, dont get me wrong, I can do it, it would be best to go through George (Jackson - DI Narcotics) because from George it will have to go elsewhere US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: the information youve given me has been touched upon by another case weve got going US Law Enforcement Officer: reference Bda Narco Officer1 PS - Bermuda officer: Yep US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay, what are you, the same thing? PS - Bermuda officer: Umm, yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay PS - Bermuda officer: same sort of thing, not as um, not as bad as what youve just said US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: so there are moves at the moment, um US Law Enforcement Officer: do you want me to tell officer1 directly that way he doesnt think that youre PS - Bermuda officer: no theres no problem officer1 will accept that from me. Does USOfficer 1) know about this. US Law Enforcement Officer: No he doesnt, its new info PS - Bermuda officer: okay, the gentleman youre talking about is away for 2 months US Law Enforcement Officer: Oh, okay, wheres he? PS - Bermuda officer: I dont know US Law Enforcement Officer: Vacation? PS - Bermuda officer: No, hes on a course in Canada I think US Law Enforcement Officer: Oh, maybe hes in Miami PS - Bermuda officer: Sorry? US Law Enforcement Officer: Maybe hes in Miami PS - Bermuda officer: No hed have, this is paid for by the job so hed have to be there US Law Enforcement Officer: Oh PS - Bermuda officer: The only thing was hes just comeback after two weeks leave to the US US Law Enforcement Officer: oh yeah PS - Bermuda officer: um, so then he went to stay with a girlfriend apparently US Law Enforcement Officer: Right. Deb, Debbie, Debbie I mean Debbie was the key that could have blown off, the whole the whole lid off the network and we, we just, we were just three days behind her and we missed he and its a shame because we really could have had everybody identified but PS - Bermuda officer: which US Law Enforcement Officer: Debra Morton PS - Bermuda officer: yep US Law Enforcement Officer: the one that was killed PS - Bermuda officer: yep US Law Enforcement Officer: but shed stay with a girl named subject1 a white girl that was friends with Dexter in Warwick PS - Bermuda officer: yep US Law Enforcement Officer: White girl thats all shed had, but friends with Dexter, a white girl named subject1, um, what else, um, oh she keeps mentioning that guy subject2 & subject3 they er, the guys she was also delivering to, is friends with er, officer1 knows about them and he has their last name PS - Bermuda officer: yep US Law Enforcement Officer: he says that theyre with Dexter all the time that crew PS - Bermuda officer: okay US Law Enforcement Officer: So, thats er, were looking good right now, we just er, we just got some statements we can possibly lock up courier2 and courier3 and er, a bunch of people so its flying, you know what I mean? PS - Bermuda officer: Yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: Umm so, maybe we can er, this is, this was very interesting, about Bda Narco Officer1 er, but just, you know thats sensitive itself so you know, its only coming from one person so, just be careful with it, Im sure youre aware of that. PS - Bermuda officer: It just interests me that he would know the name to be able to give Angela US Law Enforcement Officer: Right, oh you know why, because PS - Bermuda officer: well, thats right, eh could only get it from one source couldnt he US Law Enforcement Officer: Yeah but look back in 1982 (see: 1983 - backround) PS - Bermuda officer: yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: he was, listen to this, in 1982 when your arrest, he was arrested with the $20,000 and the cash was given back to him PS - Bermuda officer: yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: do you know who handled that arrest? PS - Bermuda officer: No US Law Enforcement Officer: Ha, who do you think? PS - Bermuda officer: Yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: Bda Narco Officer1, is Bda Narco Officer1 friends with Attorney1? PS - Bermuda officer: I wouldnt say directly, but I mean , we dont know what goes on behind the scenes US Law Enforcement Officer: exactly PS - Bermuda officer: we really dont US Law Enforcement Officer: okay, so just tell to be Joe to be careful with, with er that and about Attorney1, er, you know stay clear because like Mirandas talking to Attorney1 and Attorney1 conferencing him to Cohab so they know whats going on and this Importer1 was definitely involved. PS - Bermuda officer: Oh US Law Enforcement Officer: Hed, oh you know what, the day shed got popped for the phone bill, Angela, know how much cash she had on her? PS - Bermuda officer: $25,000 US Law Enforcement Officer: Nooooo, $350,000 PS - Bermuda officer: You are joking US Law Enforcement Officer: Nope, and they missed it PS - Bermuda officer: Laughing US Law Enforcement Officer: but she, and she flew out with it next time when after they, she went back and paid her phone bill she flew out she, guess who she, she come to Newark hotel, remember the Newark holiday inn? PS - Bermuda officer: Yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: Guess who she gives it to PS - Bermuda officer: Short fat ugly guy US Law Enforcement Officer: Yeah. No Dan Lattini. PS - Bermuda officer: Oh nice US Law Enforcement Officer: Yes and she also picked up cocaine at Lattinis house, three kilos and delivered it to courier3 and courier4 was there and you know, he knows about the whole thing courier4 and Lattini was with Debra a couple of times when they, and courier5 was with er, courier5 flew, the day courier5 was arrested the day courier5 was arrested at the Customs, in your Customs courier5. PS - Bermuda officer: yep US Law Enforcement Officer: that was, that was a, that was a put on so Angela could get through. PS - Bermuda officer: Hmm US Law Enforcement Officer: She knew she had the paper, the paper work look like it was messed up PS - Bermuda officer: yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: so she, you know, she would take, a small hit, whatever and that was so Angela could get through Customs. PS - Bermuda officer: Very nice US Law Enforcement Officer: Because they flew in together Courier5 and Angela. But courier5 had the cocaine up at Newark at the Holiday Inn or whatever at Newark and Debra was up there and courier5 bought it to Angela that morning and put it on her body and then they flew both into Bermuda and they said , and courier5 says to her "we dont know each other" so on the flight we dont sit near each other, when we come into Customs Ill go first, Ill make sure something happens, Ill make a commotion somehow and youll go through PS - Bermuda officer: Okay US Law Enforcement Officer: All right PS - Bermuda officer: very nice US Law Enforcement Officer: so if you check your paper work Im sure youll see that theyre in at the same time PS - Bermuda officer: yeah, okay US Law Enforcement Officer: all right PS - Bermuda officer: Now, Ive just found the piece of paper Ive got it written on, Indian Town, Florida US Law Enforcement Officer: Indian Town Florida PS - Bermuda officer: Yep, thats where this US Law Enforcement Officer: Thats probably where the goal is PS - Bermuda officer: That was on the 4th August he took a collect call, thats what Im thinking, it probably is the goal. Now, apparently these brothers Hal is dealing with, theres eight of them US Law Enforcement Officer: Huh PS - Bermuda officer: What Im trying to do, obviously, find out when the stuffs coming down and get your guys, get your guys to take him off US Law Enforcement Officer: right, then we can flip him PS - Bermuda officer: well, if you can all well and good, but Ive got a feeling its going to be one of the brothers. This boy is supposed to be one of the brothers, the name I gave you importer 2. US Law Enforcement Officer: okay PS - Bermuda officer: If he is, hes not going to speak and (prisoner) says hes probably not going to worry to much, at a bit of time. But the idea is to make them worried enough that theyll want informant1 to come over to you US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: when informant1 comes over he can obviously introduce US Law Enforcement Officer: an undercover PS - Bermuda officer: yeah US Law Enforcement Officer: perfect PS - Bermuda officer: once hes introduced, obviously he, if he can get back here immediately theres the two, two things Im thinking of is that once, at least by introducing somebody, at least youve got someone in plus hes got the security theres a bit of safety there US Law Enforcement Officer: okay PS - Bermuda officer: weve got someone with him US Law Enforcement Officer: yeah PS - Bermuda officer: then we get him out of there, we get him back to Bermuda. Then you can even do a dummy run US Law Enforcement Officer: right PS - Bermuda officer: You know, take 8 ounces, drop it off in New Jersey, send your boy down, your agent, send him back, pick up some cash, pay them some cash, you know, play to your hearts content with them US Law Enforcement Officer: all right PS - Bermuda officer: Thats the thought anyway, the important thing is to knock them off, Im hoping to know whats happening with myself over the next couple of days US Law Enforcement Officer: okay, well I would make a, um, tell it, well youre gonna tell officer1 maybe that will help you out PS - Bermuda officer: yeah, heres hoping US Law Enforcement Officer: Show you why you were getting it stuck up your arse by him PS - Bermuda officer: interesting US Law Enforcement Officer: All right pal PS - Bermuda officer: All right mate US Law Enforcement Officer: Okay, Ill talk to you PS - Bermuda officer: take care of yourself US Law Enforcement Officer: Hey, yo, have USOfficer1 call me when he gets in PS - Bermuda officer: Where can he contact you US Law Enforcement Officer: Um, just have him er call my office and have my office page me PS - Bermuda officer: Okay, whats the number there again US Law Enforcement Officer: (number supplied) PS - Bermuda officer: Okay, no problem US Law Enforcement Officer: All right buddy PS - Bermuda officer: All the best US Law Enforcement Officer: Bye PS - Bermuda officer: Have a good one CALL ENDS |
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