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Dillas |
Because she was the one who gave, fucking, all the guys busted in the first
case. See, I had a relationship with the girl, right. Marcus Cohab didn’t
want me to get involved with none of the guys he sent down here. I was
striking her for a whole year, this is before I have a relationship with
her, right. He didn’t want me to have a relationship because if things went
bitter, he knew she could retaliate right. Now I had the girl, I had the
girl down here three months staying in my apartment right and when I was
with The Strollers on tour and I told her that I had another girlfriend,
another Debbie, from New York and I told her she can stay and everything
but, I’m coming back with Debbie. So I sent
Coleman up my house cause she wouldn’t leave the Country and she said she
ain’t leaving until I come back to the Island, and I’ve already come back
with my girlfriend. I called around the house when I returned and told look,
leave my fucking house, I told you my girlfriend’s coming, what the fuck are
you doing. She got vexed, takes an overdose of pills. Coleman calls me back
to New York. Debbie’s in hospital, she took an overdose of pills because you
fucked her head up. I said, look man, that girl knew I had another date...
anyway, she got out of the hospital, Marcus came down, got her and took her
back to Florida. She came down a couple of times on a couple of moves. |
Roberts: |
She brought stuff down. |
Dillas: |
She brought stuff, she brought stuff, she started bringing
stuff... |
Roberts: |
How much did she use to bring? |
Dillas: |
She used to bring keys, she used to bring one for me one |
Roberts: |
Where she bring it, airplane, or |
Dillas: |
No, she used to strap it on, on the boat. |
Roberts: |
On
the boat. |
Dillas: |
Strap it on yeah, and she brought a key, last time she
brought a key she said it was stolen. So Marcus thing is, since you guys had
this bit of a thing, she’s not going to be dealing with you no more, I’ll
give you your own ... she’ll deal with just Stoneham right. I said alright
cool ... so. |
Roberts: |
The cops caught Marcus too. |
Dillas: |
Never caught him, never, never. When she started coming
down, she started hanging out with Barbara, because I had things to do,
Barbara, Barbara was |
Roberts: |
... Barbara. |
Dillas: |
Yeah, yeah that one there. She started hanging out with
Barbara she ... dropping her pants .. a couple of times Marcus didn’t even
tell me he was sending her down cruise ship, he wouldn’t tell me because
I’d be around looking for her, probably trying to fuck her. He calls me,
Marcus, he says ... I got my package ... two key’s stashed underground. Hey
mon, I want you to do me a favour, I say what, he says, hey, man you’ve got
to find that fucking bitch. I said, what are you talking about, he says,
Debbie, I hate to tell you she’s on the Island. I said, on the Island, fuck
off, I haven’t seen this fucking girl, he says . .. she’s been down there a
whole fucking month, that package, she brought it down, I just sent the
other runner down to deliver to you to make you think that it came from the
other runner. I said, where is she, I said .. . that’s what I’m calling you
for, look the bitch she’s down two hundred and seven thousand dollars, she’s
suppose to be back up with me. I need two or three ounces out of that
package. You put the word out that somebody find that fucking bitch ... I
said okay .. couple of grams. Now look guys do some scouting. Everybody down
Rangers find out where she’s at, I throw some bait out … people. |
Roberts: |
You put coke out there. |
Dillas: |
Yeah we put coke out there ... the word came back after a
couple of hours... So I call back Marcus, I. said, I found that information
... he said okay, go pick up Miranda and take Miranda.... way over South
Shore. I said I can’t go close in the car, she knows the sound of my Subaru
... I drop him off South Shore so he walks up the walk I stay down the hill
... to the door, she’s not here, so he fucking kicked the fucking door down,
fucking lying to me bitch, where the fuck is she pushed straight passed her,
we kept her, took her’ straight to the aeroplane and put her on the plane.
When that incident went down, she fucking blamed me, sort of like she
thought I was the one who ... to find where she was, so she has a bit of a
thing against me when she went back to the States. Marcus fired her. from
the organization ‘cause she was unreliable. She was down here smoking all up
with all these guys. |
Roberts: |
So where was Marcus, where did he comes from, Florida. |
Dillas: |
Marcus was in Florida, I put her back on the plane, sent her
to Florida, where he was waiting for her.’ so he paid her off. |
Roberts: |
So he, did they find her dead in New Jersey? |
Dillas: |
Check it out, he ... she won’t be working in Bermuda,
basically she wants to do some things in the United States, he will
reconsider to keeping her in the organisation, kept her down in Florida for
a while... for, she brought money back and forth from Chicago... Now her
thing was, she got pissed off and probably blamed it on me ... She called
down to Bermuda and told the man the whole operation. |
Roberts: |
She told the cops. |
Dillas: |
She told the cops about everything what we was doing ... in
the Island. They start watching us, we didn’t know. Okay, when they busted
us and everything and locked us up ... I called up Marcus and said, that
fucking bitch ... dropped a dime on us. He said, you don’t have to worry. I
said, what, I said, what do you mean by that. |
Young: |
I like his style bie. |
Dillas: |
They said, what are you fucking stupid ... I’m still acting
dumb and he said look you don’t have to worry, you won’t have anymore
complications. I thought he meant he would fire her .... on you know ... as
I still like her. |
Roberts: |
What he’s telling you is that he was going to have her
killed. |
Young: |
Yeah plain and simple. |
Dillas: |
I would have tried to talk him out of that there, you know
what I’m saying in between those times, she would still call me every night
right ... she’d still be cool and all that. |
Roberts: |
She’d still be cool. |
Dillas: |
Anyway about four days had passed right. So we were back up,
two weeks arraignment up Magistrate Court ...
Delroy comes in, I see him
looking worried, looking at the guys, Barrie Meade, Arnfield and all the
other Narcotics were in the court this morning. I said what the fuck going
on.
Delroy comes round to each one and I heard him whispering... Deborah
who, Deborah Lee Owens ... Why you say that, he said, she was just killed
... she was under Federal protection by the DEA, somebody got to her and
shot.. |
Young: |
That must have been a fucking blow to you that morning bie. |
Dillas: |
I was … |
Roberts: |
How did it come out in the newspaper that you got her pregnant. |
Dillas: |
Oh, Angela Trapasso, I used to … |
Roberts: |
They don’t know if that was true. |
Dillas: |
No they don’t. |
Roberts: |
But it was true though. |
Dillas: |
Yeah it was true, yeah, Angela Trapasso used to go with Debbie’s brother now
she says she has no proof but
...
I used to fly up there a lot of times and stay with Debbie and we used to go
to Angela’s house right. She has no proof, she couldn’t prove this in court
...
I just denied it, know what I’m saying |
Young: |
I love shit like that, that’s me bie. |
Roberts: |
Yeah, that would make a man sick bie. All we’re in for is the money and the
fun and you look somebody is getting killed. |
Dillas: |
And this girl is pregnant for me. |
Young: |
Fuck man. |
Dillas: |
And my girlfriend knew about everything cause I told her about the whole
deal. |
Roberts: |
The girlfriend in the States. |
Dillas: |
Yeah Debbie knew I was going with her. |
Young: |
The other Debbie. |
Dillas: |
Yeah, I was going with her before that there. I was going with the white
Debbie that got killed first. I was going with her for a whole year. |
Roberts: |
Heh, but that’s the damndest dirty
fucking
low down business bie. |
Dillas: |
Yeah, then I didn’t go with the black Debbie until Debbie went with someone
else. So she .accepted that for another whole year. She hadn’t met Debbie.
She said she hadn’t been coming to Bermuda that much so we would still be
cool. After I got from court that day Marcus called, couldn’t
fucking
talk to him. Said, what wrong with you, I said man
fuck
man, you said that on the phone the other night man,
fuck
man, I didn’t think you was talking about that man. He said
...
in this day … when you ….
that’s it, you’re in with chances, I couldn’t trust her. |
Young: |
She liability bie. |
Dillas: |
He said I found out through my federal, because he has big people in the
States
..
.1 found out from my resources that she was on the Federal Protection
Program
in New Jersey. She was due to come down in Bermuda in two months time to
testify. He said, fuck yeah, you had to take her mate. He said, look mate,
it’s done, it’s actually done. Man even though she’d have testified
...
I didn’t want the man to go all that way, man. The man didn’t know nothing
about it. He just ordered the hit on her. |
Roberts: |
He just ordered the hit on her. He could have paid a guy five dollars to do
it. |
Dillas: |
Yeah he was in Florida. The man knew nothing about it when Raymond Seney got
busted. Seney start telling you about a murder these guys have done. He told
them, he told them, everything, this girl who used to come down here,
Deborah Owens |
Roberts: |
He was telling the truth. |
Dillas: |
Yeah, Seney was told because Marcus told him everything about it, know what
I’m saying. |
Roberts: |
So what, they know all this, is Seney telling the truth. All this here, all
this shit going down. |
Dillas: |
Yeah, of course
...
he was part of it, of course he’s telling the truth. Seney was there but he
didn’t even know it was me. Seney said in his statement I was at the house
with Marcus Cohab when an English type fella voice came, he didn’t say who.
I just heard the guys saying, um um Marcus was saying, she’s gone and I was
wondering what Marcus was talking about and Marcus was telling the English
guy, saying she’s gone, what are you
fucking
stupid she’s gone, you don’t know what gone means and Seney was trying to
put it together, this is what Seney said he heard. |
Young: |
Right right right. |
Dillas: |
Seney said, I only to think that he was talking about the girl, because
Marcus used to tell Seney everything
..
.Seney said he put two and two together. Seney said he put together, that’s
why he Seney to shut
...
so Seney must have put two and two together
...
must have been the gun that assassinated Debbie Owens but they never found
the gun. |
Roberts: |
Seney
bought the gun. |
Dillas: |
Seney was the one who bought the gun … conspiracy to murder in the United
States. |
Roberts: |
Then actually, he didn’t know about it. |
Dillas: |
We didn’t know about it. All we done was take the gun from Florida to New
York and dropped it off at a hotel, that’s all he knows but he’s gone and
told them all everything. Seney gave the man
...
case when they had no idea cause actually one of the main ones that... was
her brother. |
Roberts: |
Her brother killed her. |
Dillas: |
Her own brother. Her own brother worked for the organization. |
Roberts: |
You’re saying that her own brother killed her. |
Dillas: |
He was part of the thing, he was the one who smuggled her out of Federal
protection. |
Roberts: |
Brought her out of Federal protection. |
Dillas: |
He brought her out of there, yeah, because they knew she was
under Federal protection and the only person who could get her out of there
was a family member. Family member, he went there to talk them into letting
her out, once he brought her out ... kidnapped her, shot her and dumped her
in the fucking highway. |
Roberts: |
Gets worse as it goes along, you’ve been through the ringer,
man. |
Dillas: |
Mmm |
Roberts: |
You’ve been through the ringer, man. All that fucking money
bie, it ain’t worth it, bie. When it comes down to the end ... When it comes
down to the end it ain’t fucking worth it bie. |
Young: |
So Marcus now is in fucking well jail for conspiracy to
murder, right. Trapasso’s locked up, Seney’s’s upstairs, Miranda’s straight
.. . Danny’s fucking dead, urn, um, who else Julio Junkie, never cracked.
Luis will never crack. Hugo Mata never cracked. |
Roberts: |
All Cubans. |
Dillas: |
Yeah. |
Roberts: |
All Julian Hall’s boys? |
Dillas: |
They can never prove, the point is, you see, using their own
... they have a strong case ... they say you are formally charged with
conspiracy ... could up until the day, the Police can never, can never prove
that I know these Cubans. They have nothing, no ‘phone numbers, nothing can
prove in evidence in the whole trial, that I know of. All four Bermudians
deny knowing these people. that’s what makes the case so weak. Now if they
had one of the people up top bragging to say yes, to come down and testify
what he knows... |
Roberts: |
Who is the guy they brought down here. |
Dillas: |
He was an off straight fucking, urn, urn, guy who introduced
me to Marcus Cohab in the beginning, but they can’t even prove that I know
him. Everybody denied knowing him, too. |
Roberts: |
What’s his name. |
Dillas: |
Victor Alongi, everybody denied knowing him. |
Roberts: |
He’s the one who met Ted. Said he met Ted on the boat. |
Dillas: |
Yeah, see, see, that’s what makes the case close, right now
that’s why Barrie Meade had to bring the case against Ted. |
Roberts: |
So he’s the one who was supplying Ted. |
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