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Dillas

Because she was the one who gave, fucking, all the guys busted in the first case. See, I had a relation­ship with the girl, right. Marcus Cohab didn’t want me to get involved with none of the guys he sent down here.  I was striking her for a whole year, this is before I have a relationship with her, right. He didn’t want me to have a relationship because if things went bitter, he knew she could retaliate right. Now I had the girl, I had the girl down here three months staying in my apartment right and when I was with The Strollers on tour and I told her that I had another girlfriend, another Debbie, from New York and I told her she can stay and everything but, I’m coming back with Debbie. So I sent Coleman up my house cause she wouldn’t leave the Country and she said she ain’t leaving until I come back to the Island, and I’ve already come back with my girlfriend. I called around the house when I returned and told look, leave my fucking house, I told you my girlfriend’s coming, what the fuck are you doing. She got vexed, takes an overdose of pills. Coleman calls me back to New York. Debbie’s in hospital, she took an overdose of pills because you fucked her head up. I said, look man, that girl knew I had another date... anyway, she got out of the hospital, Marcus came down, got her and took her back to Florida. She came down a couple of times on a couple of moves.

Roberts:

She brought stuff down.

Dillas:

She brought stuff, she brought stuff, she started bringing stuff...

Roberts:

How much did she use to bring?

Dillas:

She used to bring keys, she used to bring one for me one

Roberts:

Where she bring it, airplane, or

Dillas:

No, she used to strap it on, on the boat.

Roberts:

 On the boat.

Dillas:

Strap it on yeah, and she brought a key, last time she brought a key she said it was stolen. So Marcus thing is, since you guys had this bit of a thing, she’s not going to be dealing with you no more, I’ll give you your own ... she’ll deal with just Stoneham right. I said alright cool ... so.

Roberts:

The cops caught Marcus too.

Dillas:

Never caught him, never, never. When she start­ed coming down, she started hanging out with Barbara, because I had things to do, Barbara, Barbara was

Roberts:

... Barbara.

Dillas:

Yeah, yeah that one there. She started hanging out with Barbara she ... dropping her pants .. a couple of times Marcus didn’t even tell me he was sending her down cruise ship, he wouldn’t tell me be­cause I’d be around looking for her, probably trying to fuck her. He calls me, Marcus, he says ... I got my package ... two key’s stashed underground. Hey mon, I want you to do me a favour, I say what, he says, hey, man you’ve got to find that fucking bitch. I said, what are you talking about, he says, Debbie, I hate to tell you she’s on the Island. I said, on the Island, fuck off, I haven’t seen this fucking girl, he says . .. she’s been down there a whole fucking month, that package, she brought it down, I just sent the other runner down to deliver to you to make you think that it came from the other runner. I said, where is she, I said .. . that’s what I’m calling you for, look the bitch she’s down two hundred and seven thousand dollars, she’s suppose to be back up with me. I need two or three ounces out of that package. You put the word out that somebody find that fucking bitch ... I said okay .. couple of grams. Now look guys do some scouting. Everybody down Rangers find out where she’s at, I throw some bait out … people.

Roberts:

You put coke out there.

Dillas:

Yeah we put coke out there ... the word came back after a couple of hours... So I call back Marcus, I. said, I found that information ... he said okay, go pick up Miranda and take Miranda.... way over South Shore. I said I can’t go close in the car, she knows the sound of my Subaru ... I drop him off South Shore so he walks up the walk I stay down the hill ... to the door, she’s not here, so he fucking kicked the fucking door down, fucking lying to me bitch, where the fuck is she pushed straight passed her, we kept her, took her’ straight to the aeroplane and put her on  the plane. When that incident went down, she fucking blamed me, sort of like she thought I was the one who ... to find where she was, so she has a bit of a thing against me when she went back to the States. Marcus fired her. from the organization ‘cause she was unreliable. She was down here smoking all up with all these guys.

Roberts:

So where was Marcus, where did he comes from, Florida.

Dillas:

Marcus was in Florida, I put her back on the plane, sent her to Florida, where he was waiting for her.’ so he paid her off.

Roberts:

So he, did they find her dead in New Jersey?

Dillas:

Check it out, he ... she won’t be working in Bermuda, basically she wants to do some things in the United States, he will reconsider to keeping her in the organisation, kept her down in Florida for a while... for, she brought money back and forth from Chicago... Now her thing was, she got pissed off and probably blamed it on me ... She called down to Bermuda and told the man the whole operation.

Roberts:

She told the cops.

Dillas:

She told the cops about everything what we was doing ... in the Island. They start watching us, we didn’t know. Okay, when they busted us and everything and locked us up ... I called up Marcus and said, that fucking bitch ... dropped a dime on us. He said, you don’t have to worry. I said, what, I said, what do you mean by that.

Young:

I like his style bie.

Dillas:

They said, what are you fucking stupid ... I’m still acting dumb and he said look you don’t have to worry, you won’t have anymore complications. I thought he meant he would fire her .... on you know ... as I still like her.

Roberts:

What he’s telling you is that he was going to have her killed.

Young:

Yeah plain and simple.

Dillas:

I would have tried to talk him out of that there, you know what I’m saying in between those times, she would still call me every night right ... she’d still be cool and all that.

Roberts:

She’d still be cool.

Dillas:

Anyway about four days had passed right. So we were back up, two weeks arraignment up Magistrate Court ... Delroy comes in, I see him looking worried, looking at the guys, Barrie Meade, Arnfield and all the other Narcotics were in the court this morning. I said what the fuck going on. Delroy comes round to each one and I heard him whispering... Deborah who, Deborah Lee Owens ... Why you say that, he said, she was just killed ... she was under Federal protection by the DEA, somebody got to her and shot..

Young:

That must have been a fucking blow to you that morning bie.

Dillas:

I was …

Roberts:

How did it come out in the newspaper that you got her pregnant.

Dillas:

Oh, Angela Trapasso, I used to …

Roberts:

They don’t know if that was true.

Dillas:

No they don’t.

Roberts:

But it was true though.

Dillas:

Yeah it was true, yeah, Angela Trapasso used to go with Debbie’s brother now she says she has no proof but ... I used to fly up there a lot of times and stay with Debbie and we used to go to Angela’s house right. She has no proof, she couldn’t prove this in court ... I just denied it, know what I’m saying

Young:

I love shit like that, that’s me bie.

Roberts:

Yeah, that would make a man sick bie. All we’re in for is the money and the fun and you look somebody is getting killed.

Dillas:

And this girl is pregnant for me.

Young:

Fuck man.

Dillas:

And my girlfriend knew about everything cause I told her about the whole deal.

Roberts:

The girlfriend in the States.

Dillas:

Yeah Debbie knew I was going with her.

Young:

The other Debbie.

Dillas:

Yeah, I was going with her before that there. I was going with the white Debbie that got killed first. I was going with her for a whole year.

Roberts:

Heh, but that’s the damndest dirty fucking low down business bie.

Dillas:

Yeah, then I didn’t go with the black Debbie until Debbie went with someone else. So she .accepted that for another whole year. She hadn’t met Debbie. She said she hadn’t been coming to Bermuda that much so we would still be cool. After I got from court that day Marcus called, couldn’t fucking talk to him. Said, what wrong with you, I said man fuck man, you said that on the phone the other night man, fuck man, I didn’t think you was talking about that man. He said ... in this day … when you …. that’s it, you’re in with chances, I couldn’t trust her.

Young:

She liability bie.

Dillas:

He said I found out through my federal, because he has big people in the States .. .1 found out from my resources that she was on the Federal Protection Program in New Jersey. She was due to come down in Bermuda in two months time to testify. He said, fuck yeah, you had to take her mate. He said, look mate, it’s done, it’s actually done. Man even though she’d have testified ... I didn’t want the man to go all that way, man. The man didn’t know nothing about it. He just ordered the hit on her.

Roberts:

He just ordered the hit on her. He could have paid a guy five dollars to do it.

Dillas:

Yeah he was in Florida. The man knew nothing about it when Raymond Seney got busted. Seney start telling you about a murder these guys have done. He told them, he told them, everything, this girl who used to come down here, Deborah Owens

Roberts:

He was telling the truth.

Dillas:

Yeah, Seney was told because Marcus told him everything about it, know what I’m saying.

Roberts:

So what, they know all this, is Seney telling the truth. All this here, all this shit going down.

Dillas:

Yeah, of course ... he was part of it, of course he’s telling the truth. Seney was there but he didn’t even know it was me. Seney said in his statement I was at the house with Marcus Cohab when an English type fella voice came, he didn’t say who. I just heard the guys saying, um um Marcus was saying, she’s gone and I was wondering what Marcus was talking about and Marcus was telling the English guy, saying she’s gone, what are you fucking stupid she’s gone, you don’t know what gone means and Seney was trying to put it together, this is what Seney said he heard.

Young:

Right right right.

Dillas:

Seney said, I only to think that he was talking about the girl, because Marcus used to tell Seney everything .. .Seney said he put two and two together. Seney said he put together, that’s why he Seney to shut ... so Seney must have put two and two together ... must have been the gun that assassinated Debbie Owens but they never found the gun.

Roberts:

Seney bought the gun.

Dillas:

Seney was the one who bought the gun … conspiracy to murder in the United States.

Roberts:

Then actually, he didn’t know about it.

Dillas:

We didn’t know about it. All we done was take the gun from Florida to New York and dropped it off at a hotel, that’s all he knows but he’s gone and told them all everything.  Seney gave the man ... case when they had no idea cause actually one of the main ones that... was her brother.

Roberts:

Her brother killed her.

Dillas:

Her own brother. Her own brother worked for the organization.

Roberts:

You’re saying that her own brother killed her.

Dillas:

He was part of the thing, he was the one who smuggled her out of Federal protection.

Roberts:

Brought her out of Federal protection.

Dillas:

He brought her out of there, yeah, because they knew she was under Federal protection and the only person who could get her out of there was a family member. Family member, he went there to talk them into letting her out, once he brought her out ... kidnapped her, shot her and dumped her in the fucking highway.

Roberts:

Gets worse as it goes along, you’ve been through the ringer, man.

Dillas:

Mmm

Roberts:

You’ve been through the ringer, man. All that fucking money bie, it ain’t worth it, bie. When it comes down to the end ... When it comes down to the end it ain’t fucking worth it bie.

Young:

So Marcus now is in fucking well jail for conspiracy to murder, right. Trapasso’s locked up, Seney’s’s upstairs, Miranda’s straight .. . Danny’s fucking dead, urn, um, who else Julio Junkie, never cracked. Luis will never crack. Hugo Mata never cracked.

Roberts:

All Cubans.

Dillas:

Yeah.

Roberts:

 All Julian Hall’s boys?

Dillas:

They can never prove, the point is, you see, using their own ... they have a strong case ... they say you are formally charged with conspiracy ... could up until the day, the Police can never, can never prove that I know these Cubans. They have nothing, no ‘phone numbers, nothing can prove in evidence in the whole trial, that I know of. All four Bermudians deny knowing these people. that’s what makes the case so weak. Now if they had one of the people up top bragging to say yes, to come down and testify what he knows...

Roberts:

Who is the guy they brought down here.

Dillas:

He was an off straight fucking, urn, urn, guy who introduced me to Marcus Cohab in the beginning, but they can’t even prove that I know him. Everybody denied knowing him, too.

Roberts:

What’s his name.

Dillas:

Victor Alongi, everybody denied knowing him.

Roberts:

He’s the one who met Ted. Said he met Ted on the boat.

Dillas:

Yeah, see, see, that’s what makes the case close, right now that’s why Barrie Meade had to bring the case against Ted.

Roberts:

So he’s the one who was supplying Ted.

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