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Dillas:.

Yeah, that means money. I said no. Thatís an≠other good thing he never got the money first, thatís another good... on my part. So I said no so anyway put it in the basket right, strapped the t**** thing in the basket. . .strap. Itís still not hitting on me, and then... he was standing up there with these sneakers on I remember that part, these big sneakers and he had no lacings in em. They done it purposely so he couldnít run right.. . .Thought maybe he came to the beach and fucking around know what Iím saying and okay the and at that point when he put the thing in the basket he says fuck off now.

Young:

Seriously.

Dillas:

Yeah. He set me up but he said that right. When he said that I said of fuck this is a set up. Now I had plenty time. I immediately took off and I had Smitty up the lighthouse already. Up and down. . okay I drove up and down about six times right. When I decided to go up there.

Roberts:

Drove up and down where?

Dillas:

I drove up and down the road from Whale Bay and would keep going back to see if anybodyís following me before I went to pick the package up right. Now fifteen minutes prior to that I dropped Smitty off at the lighthouse so he can crawl up the lighthouse and watch the thing on his chest, man never saw Smitty up there.

Young:

Bye fuck off seriously.

Dillas:

Honest t fucking god.

Young:

What?

Dilas:

Seney told me take off. Check this out I hadnít got time to drive out to the lighthouse right.

Young:

Right.

Dillas:

Come out to the gate, I got down to the gate I said (Gives a loud whistle) come on come on.

Young:

Laughs.

Dillas:

Thatís all the time I had, Smitty ran down the hill right. Got on the bike, drove down about twenty yards and then go over the wall picked up the bag of rice... Picked up the rice, something just told me fuck donít go on the road. . .that guy something weird. When I came out ... I played golf up there everyday I drove right through the Portuguese yard and I knew it was a little hole there.

Young:

I patched up. . .lighthouse.

Dillas:

Drove through .. lighthouse. So when we got up the 18th hole I said okay Smitty take the thing Iíll start digging a hole, Smitty went in the thing and it was clothes in there. Said let me see I donít see no clothes in there. I said man look in that fucking thing man. So heí pulled all the clothes out the manís hand came out with this little fucking package about half the size of the Ö only about six ounces... I said what the fuck that guy! playing me for. Iím still not thinking that that was a clean sell. I said Smitty Iím going back up the lighthouse to see that fucking guy bye. 18th hole and fuck coke. Now at this time. . .the 18th hole is up by the Rib Room.

Young:

Right, is that the back entrance of the Princess?

Roberts:

Right.

Dillas:

So I come out of the 18th hole by the bunker . . .~ now this time, theyíre coming like, theyíre going to cut the lighthouse this way. Iím coming to the back entrance of Princess now.

Young:

Right.

Dillas:

So Iím going back up there to fuck Seney off and tell him whereís the rest of the coke bye. I come onto the back entrance to, come along the back entrance to. ..

Roberts:

There is nobody out there man.

Dillas:

I came out the back entrance to the Southamp≠ton Princess, I looked down to fucking Tedís house down the hill ... all I see is nothing but vans and Narco cars. I said oh fuck lord have mercy this is a set up. Fuck that, that.. .thinking, no, no thinking .... now look I committed myself when I went up the hill anyway.

Young:

right.

Dillas:

ĎWhat Iím saying, check this out, okay riding along, now I canít see how they didnít see me. I had a hired helmet, they probably thought I was a tourist.. because the cars were all around. I went straight down the hill and back up to the lighthouse.

Young:

Bye fuck off bye.

Dillas:

No, check out what I was doing. I had to get. back up to the Portuguese yard to take the cut out of  there. Check it out now, as Iím going back to make myescape knowing now, not going back to the lighthouse, ifs definitely a set up. As I get half way up the slope, here comes the white taxi down the hill with just the parking lights on, that caught my attention. I said look at this fucking taxi coming out of there this guyís not got his lights on, well who could be in that taxi. Paul Seney, Mr. Fox and Alan Cleave... Mr. FOX was the same guy who was up Lighthouse Hill watching, dead now right, things. Now, when I passed the fucking fucking taxi, all I see Seney, with his head turned back like to say 1~ is that him and in the statement Seney said to the cops, thatís him there, and I saw the brake light come on after I passed the thing. The brake lights for the taxi went on I said of fuck so okay. I passed that taxi here now and go round a sharp corner.

Young: Right right.
Dillas:  The taxi must have went to go turn around. Probably thought I was going to my house by South Shore Road, fuck him. Where did I go . . .back to the Portuguese yard again, now Iím back in the lighthouse right. Lightís off. Iím back on the golf course. Lightís Off. Back to Smitty. . .Smitty itís the fucking man all Lighthouse Hill, all South Shore Road, is, (police siren sounds). Bye, itís cars ~ zooming I said to Smitty, thatís a mistake we made dropping the fucking bike, we panicked know what Iím saying, man think.... I didnít want to get caught. I didnít know how close they were to me... once I heard the car I said to Smitty get rid of the fucking baggage, took the fucking package out, took shirt off, took his shirt overlapped it.. wiped all the fingerprints off, right. Walked over to the trees, had shirt like that there and flick it. We hauled arse.
Roberts: You left your bike, left your bike on the golf course.
Dillas: Yeah we left the bike on the golf course right. Threw the bag away in the trees, and flicked the fucking coke out right. So by this time we start running. We start running down like you know where Princess on the South Shore, you know where the pond is, start running down the hilt. As I start running down the hill,, I saw two figures down there.. Now someoneís on the golf course, fuck ..then I saw four golf carts coming with spot lights . . truck. We guys ran up the fucking dump truck . . .in the fucking dump truck, shaking our asses .. oh fuck, came right up by the fucking truck bye, we guys, I am in the truck Jules.
Roberts: You were looking.

Dillas:

No bye, my heart was pumping, you could have heard it. Hey he stood the spotlight bie, he shone, he stayed in the golf cart, it was pitch dark, he was probably scared. Now. . .these bies are going to have a weapon bie ... by the wheels. He stayed in the golf cart, he rolled the golf cart a little more, looked, then they left, went down to the next hole. I was so fright≠ened, I couldnít move out of the truck (Laughter). Smitty went and left me, told him stay here with me or Iíll have to take you down man. Fuck, Smitty, no bie.. .want for my life. The man got South Shore Road blocked off right. Smittyy goes and runs across the fucking road Jules, the man was so frightened, he ran across the road and right up in these white peoples yard. Out came a fucking Doberman Pinscher (Laugh≠ter) . . .Smitty almost lost his life. Smitty jumped okay, you know the house. Okay coming up the main en≠trance there from Princess from South Shore.

Young:

Right.

Dillas:

You know that sharp, sharp corner.

Young:

That one on the end.

Dillas:

Smitty jumped in the house there, the dog came, Smitty jumped right off that bank, going down to South Shore, go down to Whale Bay Beach. Smitty jumped right off the fucking cliff bie, donít know why he didnít kill himself. Smitty said fuck it, Iím gone.... I said oh fuck, Smittyís dead.

Roberts:

Where did you go after that?

Dillas:

He fucking well, well bounced, well he must have bounced off the. - .sand and he ran down Whaler Inn.., a car came up out the corner, a car came up out .pf the corner and a cop started shining light. Smitty went across the road so fast, they werenít sure if it was a dog ... now Iím laying in the dump truck right. Iím laying in the dump truck ... with the flash≠light. I hear the officer say on the radio Iím not sure what it was, I thought I saw something flash across. I said oh fuck the guyís shining again, then radio.. -.go to certain destination. Must have told him change the destination. So he speeded off... go up by the lighthouse, here I am stuck, I said fuck, fuck how am I going to make it up to Tedís home. Tedís sonís house, I had to try and make it up to Sunnyside Park, that was my alibi as to where I was right. Jules, I slept in that dump truck until four in the morning, some three hours after Smitty had made his getaway I said how am I going to get out of here, I canít go back home.. .so I went back down... and went way back up the fucking golf course up this time, like as Iím going to Southampton Princess, I said, I cut down, up by the Tennis Club. Once I get up to the Tennis Club, I stayed up there, thereís trees up there and it would get me to Sunnyside Park, you know that area.

 

 

Young:

Yer, I know that area real good.

Dillas:

Okay, I went up to Tedís home and jumped across the road.

Young;

comes out in the Douglas yard.

Dillas:

Right, right.

Young:

That guy with the BMW.

Dillas:

I got up there. . .I got to the trees, I thought, Iím safe. Hey, those trees are tall cane grass, I donít know how I made it, I had to go about three hundred yards bie . . fucking crawl, took me fucking about forty min≠utes.. .then I had to get to barbed wire and old car. Once I got out to Sunnyside Park, I ran through the hills, even ran across Ramsayís house. Made it to Bubbaís house, when I got to Bubbaís house Smitty was already there, I said fuck (Laughing). Fuck, at this point, I told Docís brother, Winky.

Roberts:

So who was he said the sisterís.

Dillas:

Err?

Roberts:

That guy said he sent him to two sisterís. Dillas: Two sisters.

Roberts:

Yer, Seney, was trying something about seven sisters.

Dillas:

You know the sisters he said, that is who he was dealing cocaine with first. He didnít want to call the guys names, he was talking about Anthony Stoneham, the sisters, Anthony and David Stoneham.

Young:

You mean thatís how they found out.

Dillas:

Yeah, Seney said he was working for the sisters then he said he was working for a guy named Chrome Coleman, owns a shop in St. Georgeís, all thatís in his statement. Say now, what Iím saying is, the fact that he mentioned all those names, it gives my QC a chance to say, this guyís calling all these other peopleís names who is the fuck to say, may be that package is supposed to be for them. Heís trying to set me up, someway, might have got my number, know what I am saying. The fact that he named names gives me some outlet.

Young:

Leverage.

Dillas:

See, what Iím saying thatís what Iíll put to my lawyer, thatís my fucking way out.  My way, my QC is a . . . his role is going to have to be hey look this guy called his name, this guy originally came over here with this coke for somebody else. Someway, if you gave him that number, the police gave him that number and tried to set me to fuck up because I do have myself that. . . call. Okay when he got me desperate on the Ďphone and tried to meet me, tried to make me come down to Palmetto Bay, copies of the conversation ended up something like this here, look, man, you ainít coming down here. Iím saying him, I ainít doing nothing until I talk to your boy, right. I talked nothing about drugs right, he said um um, he really got desperate after I call you back three or four times. Every time heís calling me, Iím running to a pay Ďphone and calling back Marcus... Marcus said, hey, look, if you are worried, donít go. . . then he got to the point in saying look man Iíve done my part of the deal... this is what I said on the Ďphone, I said, man, what the fuck are you talking about, man...

Roberts:

You said that to throw the man off. They was listening.

Dillas:

Yeah, I done that to cover myself, thatís in the statement, see, what Iím saying. So, I mean, itís a ticklish case to get off but I have no... .nothing was discussed in the telephone conversations about cocaine.

Roberts:

But Seney was trying to get you to say some~ thing about it.

Dillas:

He was trying to get me, yes, when he said, um I said this here, I know this boy is all fucked up, I said, hey man, what the fuck are you talking about. Where are you calling from anyway, man. Who have you been talking to now. He said I did. . . know what Iím saying. That might be a little ticklish, but that could be, I mean I could, our boy, even if that was said in my house, heh, look, man we guys just got busted for a case, some strangers calling up my home start. Iíve got the indication he was talking about fucking drugs, man. Hey, Iím not going to let anybody talk on my Ďphone like that, this could be a setup, know what Iím saying.

Young:

Once you got up Sunnyside Park, right.

Dillas:

I was safe.

Young:

What did you do after that?

Dillas:

I told... if the cops come to the house, I was up there playing cards.

Roberts:

Whoís that, Tedís son.

Dillas

 Yeah

Roberts

Heís gonna be your witness.

Dillas

He and his girl, yeah.

Roberts

The alibi to say you were down there and not at the lighthouse.

Dillas

We was playing, yeah, yeah, we was playing cards all night and stuff like that. . . they never got me until the next day they never caught me though, I had to go and sign bail. The next day, the whole fucking next day, I had to go jail, sign bail about six oíclock I knew they would probably catch me, so I snuck back to the house, I didnít go back to the house till about 5 oíclock in the afternoon, cause I knew I was going straight in jail after my bail, right. I went back to the house... Larry was already in the Police Station, see, Ďcause when they busted the house that night when I was up... they took Larry, they busted the whole house, didnít find ... I snorted them all one time (laughing). I said I long go jail, I snorted them, two gramsÖ When I got to the Police station, signed my bail, a guy comes outside and says, Mr. Dillas, weíre going to keep you in custody the Police want to interview you.

Roberts

Whoís that there?

Dillas

All the Narcotics cops want to interview me because I went to sign my bail for the first case, see, I was already on bail from the first case. So, the Police never caught me that night at the thing. The whole next day when I... I knew I had to go Police station, about six, because I had to sign six days a week. So, when I went to sign bail that was the point, see what Iím saying. The point is...

Roberts

Thatís when they arrested you.

Dillas

Yer, the point Iím saying is thatís a good thing, as to say look is if Iím guilty look, Iím not going to go into Police Station, I went in on my own will, see what Iím saying..

Young

Right.

Dillas

QC. . . thatís some strong points he has to weigh out.

Young

As long as youíve got Bobbie and his muma, right, specifically stay to what they have got to say right...

Dillas

And like I told you, the covering of the bike, the bike found on the golf course I told them, I stated, that the bike got stolen from Henry VIII. I told them it got stolen from Henry VIII sometime just before midnight, and then I said we came out of Henryís, we were so drunk, I thought someone was playing a game on me, I couldnít believe it, the bike werenít there.

Roberts

That was all bullshit

Dillas

Yer that was all bullshit, see what Iím saying, but Iím backing myself?  Yeah, Iím backing myself, Iím saying hey look man, I came out of the fucking thing and Smitty was drunk. I told Smitty to stop leaving the key in the bike, he has a habit of doing that. When we came out the hire bike was gone, I thought someone was playing a joke because we was drunk.

Roberts

This is what youíre telling the cops.

Dillas

This is what Iím telling the cops in my statement, I thought someone was playing jokes. We stood down by the road and along came a white car. We, we had two six packs of beers that we picked up, because we were. . . initially going up to Kenoís house, Bobbyís home to play cards after we had a drink at Henryís anyway and when the car came. . .and the guy dropped us off at Southampton Rangers and walked into Bobbyís home

Roberts

Suppose they go, suppose they come and check Henry VIII.

Dillas

Well they already did go check, and the guy... up there. . .said he was up there.

Roberts

At the time.

Dillas

 Yeah, but the thing is they canít use that, you know why ... they donít have that in the evidence, my PIís already gone, and whatever evidence they think they can use me in the statements, has to be in my papers ... itís not there so I can use them on ~my behalf too.

Young

Thatís right.

Dillas

Because those guys were doing the money changing for me.

Roberts

 Who?

Dillas

Neil, Neil and Rudy, they were doing the money changing, they...

Roberts

Youíll need them two then.

Dillas

Yeah, so they covered me they told

Roberts

They were, they sniff and all that there too.

Dillas

No, no.

Roberts

They just do the money.

Dillas

Yer man, the Police came up there man and asked them, they say yer, Dillas was here last night, he comes up here every night. See what Iím saying, that parts covered too.

Young

Right.

Dillas

I mean even if it looks a little sticky, see what Iím saying. A good QC going to turn around and make em believe, now look for some reason or other, how that bike got out there, maybe the person that initially went to pick up the package, or it could have been a person that was at Dillasís house, which actually wasnít him, talking on the Ďphone, and he might have thought that he was trying to steal, do something and maybe set up and they didnít know about it and he was probably the one who came and maybe took that bike to go pick up the package on the hill, anything like that there. See what Iím saying fucking story to throw it off because the two charges that they had before, see, is intent to supply. Now, I know I can beat that, because intent to supply means you have to have possession, on your possession, you never had it on my possession, neither do you have any fingerprints, Ďcause I didnít touch it. Number two is conspiracy to import coke into the Is≠lands. They only have my word against Seneyís, they have no evidence of anything of Ďphone conversations or agreement, that I told Raymond Seney to come down here and bring cocaine to Bermuda. Neither do they have any evidence that I ever, ever talked to this guy in my life before or ever talked to him on a phone before.

Roberts

Whoís that guy?

Dillas

Seney. They have no calls of me going to his house in the United States.

Roberts

What about the other guy who sent Seney.

Dillas

Heís on my side.

Roberts

Heís been down here. Heís been to the Island.

Dillas

Heís been to the Island, yeah, a long time ago. Heís on my side, heís the one telling me man fight it. He called the other day from prison in New Jersey, heís the one going up for murder. Heís on my side, heís the one telling me.

Roberts

So, so, so, so what. Heís the one that shot that girl.

Dillas

Well, yeah, he organised it, he ... heís gonna beat that, too, because he was in Florida, the murder happened in New Jersey. Seney was the one gave cops about the murder, after Seney

Roberts

Why did they take the girl out?

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