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22ND MARCH
1990
C.I.D./NARCOTICS
1650 HRS
HAMILTON
Karen, I am
Detective Constable Sean Field this is Special Constable Virgil and this is
Woman Police Officer Ricca. I was
present when you were arrested earlier today at your residence.
You were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to import a controlled
drug. You were cautioned.
That is to say you are not obliged to say anything unless you wish to
do so but that whatever you say will be taken down in writing and may be given
in evidence. Do you understand?
Yeah
Karen Gilbert Sean Field S.C.
A Virgil Y Ricca 390
Do you wish to
contact your lawyer?
No.
Do you wish to
make a statement about the circumstances surrounding your arrest?
It will be taken down in writing
Yes.
Do you wish to
write your statement
I thought you
were going to write it.
I can say it
and you can write it.
I Karen Gilbert
wish to make a statement. I want
someone to write down what I say. I
have been told that I need not say anything unless I wish to do so and that
whatever I say will be taken down in writing and may given in evidence.
Karen Gilbert
What I know about the stuff is that it belongs to Evertte Wellman.
He phoned Norman asked him to pick up "T.V.s" and Genisis
games. Norman picked up "T.V.s"
and Genisis games before for Everett early about the first of the year.
Thats the first time he`s done it for him.
The guy, Everette gave Norman about an ounce of herb I smoked most of
it and a guy sold the rest of it for Norman so that he could get his truck
licenced and insured. That was
about the first of January. Then
he phoned Norman about two weeks ago and told him to pick up some more "T.V.s"
and Genisis games. Norman said
that if he picks it up he`s going to take one T.V and open it up to see whats
inside there. When he done that
you guys came.
Record read
over to Karen Gilbert.
I have had the
above statement read over to me. I
have been told that I can correct alter or add anything I wish, this statement
is true I have made it of my own free will.
Karen Gilbert
Karen I wish to put some questions to you about the circumstances
surrounding your arrest. You are
not obliged to answer any of my question unless you wish to do so, but if you
do the questions I ask and the answers you give (if any) will be taken down in
writing and may be given in evidence. Do
you understand this?
Yes.
Karen Gilbert Sean Field
A Virgil Y
Ricca 390
What is your
full name?
Karen Cassandra
GILBERT
What is your
date of birth?
Third of June
sixty-one.
Where do you
live?
Five Pembroke
Park Lane, Pembroke
With whom do
you live?
My common law
husband or boyfriend, my daughter`s daddy and my daughter.
Who is your
boyfriend?
NORMAN STUART
WELLMAN, no relation to Everette Wellman.
How long have
you known Norman?
Around thirteen
years.
How old is your
daughter
She`s two
she`ll be three in June.
Whats her name
****** ********
WELLMAN.
Are you
employed?
Self-employed.
I run the lunch wagon down National Sports Club.
What does
Norman do for employment?
He is a self
employed truck driver.
How much money
do you make weekly
seven hundred
dollars.
How much is the
rent where you stay.
The house is
owned by Norman.
How do you know
Everette WELLMAN
I don`t know
him personally but I know of him.
How does
Everette know Norman?
From his half
brother Antoine Brangman
In your
statement you say that Everette phoned Norman and asked him to pick some
T.V.`s and games up. When did he
phone?
Well it went
like this. We have a cellular
telephone my number 2347-558 and Normans the same but the "8" is a
"9". About two weeks
ago, I answered the phone and spoke to a man who was asking for Norman.
I told him to try the same number but with nine he said he had but had
not got a hold of Norman. I asked if I could take a message. He said tell him Everette called.
When did Norman
go get the first load of "T.V`s" and video games.
It had to
before the New Year. He picked it
up on the Thursday before the New Year. I
think the 28th
Did Norman know
what he was picking up?
Yes.
He knew there was something in there but he didn`t know what it could
have been guns. He just gave
Norman an ounce for picking it up.
Who gave Norman
the ounce?
I weren`t there
but Norman said Everette. I saw
the ounce and I smoked it.
When you say an
ounce of herb do you mean an ounce of the controlled drug cannabis?
Yes.
When Everette
phoned the second time and asked Norman to pick up some more T.V`s and games
did he know what he was dealing with?
I think he did.
He said I don`t think I should go pick it up I said do what you want to
do. So he said he would go cause
Everette kept calling him up and asking him to.
So Norman said he would go and pick them up and open one of the T.V.`s
and take a pound of herb out and sell it.
Get out debt real quick that way.
Then Norman weren`t going to do no more after that.
Did Everette
Wellman ever come to your house?
No
How was the
first set of T.V`s and games delivered
In Norman`s
brothers van.
Do you know
what was in the first set of T.V.`s and video games?
I didn`t but
after a while Norman said the Everette said it was about five kilos of cocaine
and around three or four pounds of herb.
Norman said Everette shouldn`t have told him that cause he
was going to look into the second shipment.
Everette has been doing this for about ten years.
He`s got a B.M.W a private dock and a big cabin cruiser
Karen am I
correct in saying that when Norman went to pick up the T.V`s and video games
today he knew full well that they contained drugs.
Yes.
Earlier you
said that Norman delivered the first set of televisions and video games in his
brothers truck. What is Normans
brothers name?
Arthur WELLMAN
Did he go with
Norman when the delivery was made?
No he wasn`t on
the island. He doesn`t know
anything. Norman was just looking
after the van.
Did Norman open
any of the T.V`s or video games from the first delivery.
No he just took
it straight to Everette
Where did
Norman make the delivery?
Somewhere up
Somerset. Some house I think he
said somewhere up willowbank. The
first delivery went to Shirlene Brangman`s house.
She`s married now thats not her last name. I don`t know her married name.
The delivery went to her husband at her home. Everette called Norman on Tuesday and told him that he had to
show Norman where to deliver this time Norman didn`t tell me where it was.
Did you know if
Norman was going to be paid for delivering the second set of televisions and
video games?
I think Norman
was going to take a pound from the T.V. and tell Everette that he wasn`t going
to do it any more.
Where did
Norman pick up the television`s from?
From the docks
number eight.
Karen, a large
quantity of controlled drugs namely Cannabis and Cocaine was seized from the
rear of the televisions that Norman picked up today. Do you know how the drugs got there.
No, but I think
that Everette his brothers or his ace boys did it.
Karen before I
close this interview is there anything you wish to tell us about this
incident?
I wish it never
happened.
Do you wish
over the record.
No you can read
it to me.
Record read
over to Gilbert.
Gilbert to
washroom with WPC Ricca.
Gilbert back
with WPC Ricca.
Record read
over to Gilbert.
Record read
completely read over
Now that I have
read over to you do you wish to add alter or correct anything?
Nah I don`t
think so.
Is this a true
record of the questions I asked and the answers you gave.
Yes it is.
Did you make it
of your own free will?
Yes
Do you wish to
sign each page of the record and initial the corrections
Yes.
Karen Gilbert Sean Field A
Virgil Y Ricca 390
Record
completed.
The above record was recorded by the undersigned between 1650 hours and
1832 hours, Thursday, 22nd March 1990 at the Hamilton Police Station Interview
room S/C Virgil WPC 390 Ricca and Karen Gilbert were present.
Sean Field
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