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Roberts

What time?

Dillas

This last.. .the first case.. .this time they said Iíd flushed a kilo down the toilet.

Roberts

What, you did.

Dillas

No, boy, I had a half an ounce, thatís all I had. Because check this out...

Roberts

But you had a kilo.

Dillas

Yeah, I had a key. Done it off I finished it.

Roberts

You sold it?

Dillas

Yeah. I was laying on the couch when they came down this time.

Roberts

Mm.

Dillas

When they came inside womp. So they wonít answer, did it again womp. Jumped off the fucking couch man. .. Straight down the fucking toilet..

Roberts

What you had what you had. How much you had on you when you?

Dillas

Half ounces this time the thing. Lies. Well I had three dead locks on my door before I put an extra on. So I had four dead locks Ö to the fucking concrete that time, break it.  Said now, big them big fucking dead locks.

Roberts

 Yeah

Dillas: So Iím standing down by the bathroom, I didnít want to come.. So I thought somebody was playing a game.. So this time Smittyís up to the door this time just getting ready to answer it. Second knock.. Cops going to... Smitty says who is it. Well before the man could even finish the is it all you hear Police. Snaps in the doors breaking. Hey I had so much fucking time this how when they got down the door they said it took about fifteen twenty seconds. I had enough time to put my hand up the toilet, flush the thing, wipe my fucking hands and came out half way back to my living room to answer the door and they got me. Shit was gone, they lied in the paper when they said they saw all that white powder in the toilet. Let me tell you something if they saw that white powder in the toilet, those fucking would have put their hand there and snatched something up.

Young:

As evidence.

Dillas:

They couldnít even get no resins, they had to go to Court and lie. Shit was way gone, before they got in the door the shit was.

Roberts:.

But they knew you flushed something

Dillas:

They knew yeah cause you could hear the toilet going back up. I told the man I just finished peeing..

Roberts:

But all the while you flushed it.

Dillas:

Yeah.

Young:

I was, I was going court

Dillas:

He was in court.

Young:

I was in court that day cause I was out Ďiii.

Dillas:

Hey werenít they. . .same.

Young:

This fucking guyís got some posture bye, hey he donít sweat.

Dillas:

See him like this here look. So Barry Meadeís saying Mr. Dillas, you canít tell the jury why you flushed that toilet. I said Mr. Meade you do mean you want me tell exactly how I was using the toilet.

Young:

Laughs.

Dillas:

This all on the stand. Hey, hey people, hey... I performed up there. . said good. I said you want me to actually tell them exact details. I mean like a pee.

Young:

Laughs.

Dillas:

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury when the Police came in my apartment I was in the bathroom urinating and then when he said something about, when he told the court why, why the door was opened. I said well ladies and gentlemen of the jury I stay with two men not females. It would be unusual even in the presence of my girlfriend was staying here, that one gets comfortable and would leave the door open while hav≠ing a piss, man are man. Thereís no reason for me to leave the ~ door closed or to close the door, and then well when the cross examination, the um um the QC said to him did you check Mr. Dillasí hands. No. There was no trace of cocaine on his hands, and then he said well officer, Dc. Richardson they all got together and lied. So he said Dc. Richardson you said you saw a large quantity of cocaine in the toilet floating around and you didnít want to put my hand in that.

Young:

Thatís a lie.

Dillas:

Put your hand in what, meaning what it wasnít urine you said it was coke. Isnít that, what did you come to Mr. Dillasí house for. Did you come there to get coke. Yes.

Young:

Or you come to get piss (Laughs).

Dillas:

Yeah, you came there to get coke. Let me ask you this, did you find coke. No sir. You didnít find coke. Oh, but you saw a lot of coke yet you wouldnít even get a scoop of it. I find that quite interesting.

Young:

Laughs.

Dillas:

I said yeah yeah, fuck him right up he was smashing him right up.

Young:

I was in court laughing. I was there laughing. Mv boy turned round, the first day, the first day I got there. . was there her and.. .. said ....

Dillas:

Yeah I fucked Barry Meade right up bye. Hey you hear anybody tell you when I got on the stand, boy you were brilliant bye. That man tried to come at me and like this here. Tried to say Mr. Dillas, you say that youíre a tiler right. I say your a drug dealer you donít know nothing about tiling. Who told him say that. I said Mr. Meade. He says um um how could you have three thousand dollars, how could, you say you make this in a statement in asking what I roughly make a week. I told him anywhere from six hundred to three thousand. He said how could youÖthat. I said well Mr. Meade if you say Iím not so much a tiler, I specialise in ceramic, quarry and marble. My prices range for the type of labour. If Iím laying marble or Mexican tile it ranges anywhere from three dollars a square feet. Surely itís not impossible for me to lay a thousand dollars of square feet in three dollars. I need not tell you how much that will cost. Or would you know. Bye he looked bye you could tell he was throwing the pen down at me while he was looking at the judge, I said that would be roughly around three thousand dollars. A thousand square feet would be right. Bye he made me come out and go pick the papers.. . . he was getting vexed at me

Young:

Yeah.

Dillas:

Right because all the members of the jury like.

Young:

And fucked up.

Dillas:

Then he says okay you won that battle letís got to take Mr. Ted Mingís master bathroom which I know you tiled. Look first he said I couldnít tile. I said yes I designed the whole master bathroom, Jacuzzi and all. He said well can you tell the members of this jury why it would be so unusual in the closet of Mr. Mingís master bathroom, youíll see a little square hole like this. For one it looks like one would climb out for escape which leads to the trees.  Thatís unusual. I said Mr Meads, are you asking me, you want me to tell you why Mr Ming would. I said well maybe to, 1 donít know exactly why but I would give you, I would say having a big Jacuzzi in a bathroom like that one could use that for ventila≠tion. Cause we both know that Jacuzziís steam up, so that one theory. So he says well if it was for ventilation why wouldnít it have a screen on it. I said Mr. Meade Iím a tiler not a ventilator installer.

Young:

Laughs.

Dillas:

Man I was fucking him right up Jules. I took that maní..

Roberts:

How Ted get in all that there man?

Young:

. . one hundred and twenty thousand out of...

Roberts:

Then he went behind ya back

Dillas:

yeah. Hey Meade didnít like me bye I fucking ate that man up in court bye. Telling you bye. He got over everybody elses head in all of Ďem except me.

Roberts:

So what but Ted went to the um boy what he name, the Cubanís himself.

Dillas:

No no no no,...... he met um right. Send em down on a trip one time. Him and his wife went away to Disney World after they got married. I had Man um um Marcus pick him up at the airport and you know Ted wanted to spend the whole time in Florida and stuff like that. So he met him because Ted was taking over some money for me. I had it done up with bottles. So the whole time he was there you know, so he got to know Ted plus all..

Roberts:

Tedís a millionaire man, fuck bye.

Dillas:

Yeah all the drug runners, all

Roberts:

You know he didnít even need, to all that there innit.

Dillas:

All the drug runners that came down stayed at his house.

Roberts:

All the drug runners stayed at his house.

Dillas:

Yeah, stayed at periods of times. Especially Debbie she would come down a lot. I you know, his wife would get inquisitive but Ted threw if off and say look Debbie is.

Roberts:

So his wife didnít know.

Dillas:

No Debbie.

Young:

His wife didnít know nuffin.

Dillas:

No. See Debbie, See Ted tell um, Debbie was the girl which I was messing with, a runner. Every time sheíd come here Iíd back him up. People put ... think Debbieís as a Real Estate which deal with a lot of properties in Bermuda so sheíd come down like every week so things would throw her right off. After a while his wife start saying oh Debbie howís the market. You know sheís a she was a good talker. So we had her deceived about that there. You know what Iím saying. Weíre got, I mean his role as far as like entertaining all the runners, he knew so much about the shit that he was getting paid for that. Then it hit his mind like fuck,If I can have the guy stay here Iím the one holding the money sometimes Iím holding the drugs surely I could do something for myself.

Young:

Ya got it.

Dillas:

Thatís what went right through his fucking head.

Young:

Yeah.

Roberts:

Thatís how they got Seney.

Young:

Thatís how yeah, thatís how he got the whole thing, in his head. He knew all the aspects.

Roberts:

What Seney had he was bringing it down to you or.

Dillas:

No that was for me.

Roberts:

Huh.

Dillas:

That was for me.

Roberts:

That was for you what Seney had.

Young:

Answer this now.

Dillas:

Ted had never met Seney.

Roberts:

Ted had never met Seney.

Young:

They caught Seney first.

Dillas:

They caught him at Palmetto Bay Hotel. Then they made him call up my house. Trying to make arrangements

Young:

Thatís one thing I could never understand.

Dillas:

Yeah.

Young:

I could never understand that there. So in a nutshell he pricked plain and simple.

Dillas:

Yeah. So he told them to set up the deal with me right but I never talk drugs on the phone only thing I was talking to him but what Iím saying Iím gonna even fight that that was me on the phone cause he canít prove it. Cause different people urn Larry could have even answered the phone that day. I said in my state≠ment was out of the house mostly all parts of the day. How are they to prove that Seney was talking to me?

Young:

Got a point. Right right right.

Dillas:

Iím saying that werenít me he was talking to somebody else and that Seney was making. See the whole pickup as far as lighthouse was made by via urn a payphone to Marcus Cohab but it wasnít done in my house. So they have no record of that. Marcus gave instructions when he called in Florida cause we sensed something was going on funny so I told him I didnít want to make no arrangements on my phone which was good. So all he done was made arrangements to let em know that this was.. He said look somebody is going to come up to the scenic place on the hill at one oíclock tonight, that was it.

Young:

he did...

Dillas:

No Iím saying no it werenít me. In the end they got all like telephone calls like Marcus calls Seney and um urn.

Roberts:

Thatís gonna be a hard one for you to beat bye huh.

Dillas:

I donít know bye. I donít know.

Roberts:

Cause Seneyís gone say, you know how that is. You already talked about that there.

Dillas:

Yeah I know. I donít know QC know what Iím saying. They canít prove it was me. If they had all those fucking cops up there then why didnít they catch me see it, thatís gonna be a sticky one though. With a good QC, technicalities man. Know what Iím saying. Even if they thought it was me up there they have no actual proof that I conspired with this guy to bring these drugs down. So what if somebody gave you my number you would try and set me up. My lawyer could turn around and like.

Roberts:

Why why would he lie. He just came on his own.

Dillas:

No, he came down but see the. . is Seney has never talked to me overseas. He has no record, we never we never honestly ever talk from the States. His con≠tacts was with Marcus Cohab. How is he to prove to the jury that he made arrangements. The point is theyíre charging me with conspiracy so they must prove that I made former arrangements for that package to come to me but they canít, they canít because Marcus Cohab is not there. So itís just his fucking word.

Roberts:

Oh so Marcus sent it.

Dillas:

Yeah. Marcus sent it to me but they canít prove that because I say I donít know no Marcus. Marcus is saying in the States he donít know me. So where can nthey prove the conspiracy.

Roberts:

That guy turn that light off.

Dillas:

You know what Iím saying conspiracy means that I had to agree that that package was coming here. They canít prove that Jules.

Dillas:

They said they saw me ride upon the bike and they found the bike and all that there.

Roberts:

Who was riding the bike?

Dillas:

Me and Colin. Colin was towing me. Now OK only two policemen up the hill said they saw us. Two of em said they were in the trees. One of the Police has since died, Mr. Fox that used to be in Special Forces at the airport he died.

Young:

Yeah.

Dillas:

Yeah. So now itís only one witness. The Police which can actually say that I was, they saw me come up there to see him now. You know what Iím saying, but the other point is is that now I know all the details. When the person came I was still on the bike. Seney came over to the bike and put the bag in the bike. The person riding the bike never touched the package. So whoís to say even if they say it was me and I say it werenít, what the fuck was supposed to be in that bag.

Roberts:

Who was with you, who was with you?

Dillas:

Colin

Roberts:

un. I thought it was Smitty.

Dillas:

Smitty yeah.

Roberts:

Oh I get them two guys mixed up.

Dillas:

Look was supposed to be a whole kilo and a half but the Police told him from Palmetto Bay that they were gonna set me up. So then they only put six ounces in the room. Now when I drove to Lighthouse Hill, okay Seney gave me a look, but I took him on it and then I didnít. I just thought he was fucking with me. When he put the thing in the bike see thatís why the cops came, they couldnít hear exactly what the person was talking about so I kept the bike started and turned the lights out right. He came, put it in basket right. Iím sitting on the fucking bike, so he says have you got the beans...

Roberts:

Hmm... beans.

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